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Fiesta PAS pipe nut
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Dan S. MacAbre
2020-05-19 21:46:15 UTC
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I need to replace the PTFE seal on my Fiesta PAS pump nut. I don't see
the seals for sale on their own (and it looks like they're trucky to get
on and off without damaging them), only fitted to a new nut. But how do
you get the old nut off the pipe? It can't be removed by pushing it
back along the pipe, and the business end has a conical tip that looks
like it might have been flared after pushing it through the nut;
although it does not seem to have increased its diameter, so I could be
wrong about that.
a***@gmail.com
2020-05-20 05:46:27 UTC
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hi

are you referring to the nut which screws into the pas pump ?

if so do you mean one of these ?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163464041447

and also if you do then they are a one time only deal. there is a one way clip which is impossible to get too, and once there on the hose they are a nightmare to get off, you'll need to cut it off the pipe which infact can damage the pipe., as when I've seen it on for example a fiesta st. the pipe is obsolete. so it's even worse if the pipe can't be renewed. , it also clicks on it from the front not if that makes sense , whenever I do the pas pipes on Ford's I route the hose first the screw in the connector into the pas pump , so it's nice and tight , and the last thing I have to do is click it in and fill up the res of course.
Dan S. MacAbre
2020-05-20 10:03:47 UTC
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Post by a***@gmail.com
hi
are you referring to the nut which screws into the pas pump ?
if so do you mean one of these ?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163464041447
and also if you do then they are a one time only deal. there is a one way clip which is impossible to get too, and once there on the hose they are a nightmare to get off, you'll need to cut it off the pipe which infact can damage the pipe., as when I've seen it on for example a fiesta st. the pipe is obsolete. so it's even worse if the pipe can't be renewed. , it also clicks on it from the front not if that makes sense , whenever I do the pas pipes on Ford's I route the hose first the screw in the connector into the pas pump , so it's nice and tight , and the last thing I have to do is click it in and fill up the res of course.
Yes, that's the one. I've assumed that I can't get it off, and have
left the old one where it is. I was wondering if there's some trick I
haven't thought of yet. And why I can't seem to buy the seal on its
own. :-) I've an idea I might be able to do it by shortening one of the
nozzles from a filler gun refill, and using that as a pilot, but I
haven't compared the sizes yet.
alan_m
2020-05-20 11:33:14 UTC
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Post by a***@gmail.com
hi
are you referring to the nut which screws into the pas pump ?
if so do you mean one of these ?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163464041447
and also if you do then they are a  one time only deal. there is a one
way clip which is impossible to get too,  and once there on the hose
they are a nightmare to get off,  you'll need to cut it off the pipe
which infact can damage the pipe., as when I've seen it on for example
a fiesta st. the pipe is obsolete. so it's even worse if the pipe
can't be renewed. , it also clicks on it from the front not if that
makes sense , whenever I do the pas pipes on Ford's I route the hose
first the screw in the connector into the pas pump , so it's nice and
tight , and the last thing I have to do is click it in and fill up the
res of course.
Yes, that's the one.  I've assumed that I can't get it off, and have
left the old one where it is.  I was wondering if there's some trick I
haven't thought of yet.  And why I can't seem to buy the seal on its
own. :-)  I've an idea I might be able to do it by shortening one of the
nozzles from a filler gun refill, and using that as a pilot, but I
haven't compared the sizes yet.
Possibly

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-POWER-STEERING-PIPE-TEFLON-SEAL/283788902543?hash=item421323008f:g:2YoAAOSwHnpeTY2a


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Ford-Hoses-Power-Steering-Seal-x6-3518119/273083234155?epid=1309821173&hash=item3f9507776b:g:0aYAAOSwU-1akWB1

Not much cheaper than buying the whole thing.

Or taking the part number from the second Ebay listing Google

Ford Seal 3518119
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Dan S. MacAbre
2020-05-20 12:22:10 UTC
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Post by alan_m
Post by a***@gmail.com
hi
are you referring to the nut which screws into the pas pump ?
if so do you mean one of these ?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163464041447
and also if you do then they are a  one time only deal. there is a
one way clip which is impossible to get too,  and once there on the
hose they are a nightmare to get off,  you'll need to cut it off the
pipe which infact can damage the pipe., as when I've seen it on for
example a fiesta st. the pipe is obsolete. so it's even worse if the
pipe can't be renewed. , it also clicks on it from the front not if
that makes sense , whenever I do the pas pipes on Ford's I route the
hose first the screw in the connector into the pas pump , so it's
nice and tight , and the last thing I have to do is click it in and
fill up the res of course.
Yes, that's the one.  I've assumed that I can't get it off, and have
left the old one where it is.  I was wondering if there's some trick I
haven't thought of yet.  And why I can't seem to buy the seal on its
own. :-)  I've an idea I might be able to do it by shortening one of
the nozzles from a filler gun refill, and using that as a pilot, but I
haven't compared the sizes yet.
Possibly
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-POWER-STEERING-PIPE-TEFLON-SEAL/283788902543?hash=item421323008f:g:2YoAAOSwHnpeTY2a
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Ford-Hoses-Power-Steering-Seal-x6-3518119/273083234155?epid=1309821173&hash=item3f9507776b:g:0aYAAOSwU-1akWB1
Not much cheaper than buying the whole thing.
Or taking the part number from the second Ebay listing Google
Ford Seal 3518119
That's great, thanks. I expect my search terms were too specific to
find what may be an item that fits several models. I'd considered using
PTFE tape (something I've learned to love); but for a fiver, it's
probably worth getting the right thing first time.
a***@gmail.com
2020-05-21 05:58:49 UTC
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it's been a while since iv done the pas pipes on a fiesta so remembering what to do takes a while , now there shouldn't be a seal inside the pump or any extra seals unless it's the white seal on the thread of the connector (sometimes there blue) . I have come across it when someone has put a seal on the pas pipe to hide a leak.🙈 and later for me to fix it , it can throw you Abit thinking the seal is ment to be there but it's not all the sealing is done by the connector. I don't use ptfe tape as the connector should be slightly tapered so it self seals. I have only come across it once where it's a straight thread. sometimes the most simple things can cause issues. when your not exspecting it to be like that. I was trying to remember how I removed the connector from the pipe and I used a hack saw one of them small ones , it took me best part of 2 hours as I didn't want to damage the pipe , which i successfully didn't. but it was better then not being able to get one at all. safe to say the customer was very happy 🤘
Dan S. MacAbre
2020-05-22 11:46:59 UTC
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Post by a***@gmail.com
it's been a while since iv done the pas pipes on a fiesta so remembering what to do takes a while , now there shouldn't be a seal inside the pump or any extra seals unless it's the white seal on the thread of the connector (sometimes there blue) . I have come across it when someone has put a seal on the pas pipe to hide a leak.🙈 and later for me to fix it , it can throw you Abit thinking the seal is ment to be there but it's not all the sealing is done by the connector. I don't use ptfe tape as the connector should be slightly tapered so it self seals. I have only come across it once where it's a straight thread. sometimes the most simple things can cause issues. when your not exspecting it to be like that. I was trying to remember how I removed the connector from the pipe and I used a hack saw one of them small ones , it took me best part of 2 hours as I didn't want to damage the pipe , which i successfully didn't. but it was better then not being able to get one at all. safe to say the customer was very happy 🤘
Okay, thanks. I've ordered the seal, and will do it 'by the book'.
It's hard to see how it all seals; but if the n

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