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On Car Wheel Balancing
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Rob
2004-06-27 16:02:11 UTC
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Anyone know anywhere in Hampshire (preferably in south hampshire) that can
do on car wheel balancing?

Cheers

Rob
Bob Minchin
2004-06-27 19:25:36 UTC
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Post by Rob
Anyone know anywhere in Hampshire (preferably in south hampshire) that can
do on car wheel balancing?
Cheers
Rob
Try phoning Southampton Tyre and Rubber. They used to do on the car
balancing as I used to maintain the equipment for them.

I've lost contact with them so I do not know what kit they have these days


(023) 80677468

176, Burgess Rd
Southampton
SO16 3HH


regards

Bob
Grunff
2004-06-27 21:45:29 UTC
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Post by Bob Minchin
Try phoning Southampton Tyre and Rubber. They used to do on the car
balancing as I used to maintain the equipment for them.
I've lost contact with them so I do not know what kit they have these days
(023) 80677468
176, Burgess Rd
Southampton
SO16 3HH
I'd like to put in a recommendation for them. Used to use them all the
time when I lived in Southampton - the nicest bunch of people you'll
ever come across in the garage trade.
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Grunff
Dave Plowman (News)
2004-06-27 22:43:48 UTC
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Post by Rob
Anyone know anywhere in Hampshire (preferably in south hampshire) that
can do on car wheel balancing?
Can I ask why? The chances of the hub and disc assembly being far enough
out to cause problems are remote, and the only way to accurately balance a
wheel/tyre combination is off the car.
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Dave Plowman ***@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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DuncanWood
2004-06-28 00:28:45 UTC
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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 23:43:48 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
Post by Dave Plowman (News)
Post by Rob
Anyone know anywhere in Hampshire (preferably in south hampshire) that
can do on car wheel balancing?
Can I ask why? The chances of the hub and disc assembly being far enough
out to cause problems are remote, and the only way to accurately balance a
wheel/tyre combination is off the car.
Well you could try doing it to a VW Campervan
Dave Plowman (News)
2004-06-28 08:23:04 UTC
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Post by DuncanWood
Post by Dave Plowman (News)
Can I ask why? The chances of the hub and disc assembly being far
enough out to cause problems are remote, and the only way to
accurately balance a wheel/tyre combination is off the car.
Well you could try doing it to a VW Campervan
A specialist should have the correct adaptor.
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Steve B
2004-06-28 07:15:29 UTC
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As I've always got a more precise wheel balance by balancing on the car compared
with any off-car balancing, there must be some reason it's better. I also don't
believe it's anything to do with the balance of the disc etc, so all that leaves
is centering. The off-car balancing machines I've seen all centre the wheel on
the single hole in the middle of the wheel, but on the car the wheel studs/nuts
are used. You would only need a very small difference in the centering to throw
a good bit of weight to one side.
A very rough calculation on a 24" diameter wheel/tyre weighing 16kg shows that a
10 thou (0.25mm) error in the centering would need 7g added to balance it out.
That's the typical level of error I've seen between the 2 methods of balancing
coincidentally. Any dents in the wheel centre could give a bigger error than
this.
The other problem I've seen is operators doing the balancing correctly on the
machine, getting the weight and just wacking it on the wheel in the rough area
indicated; the weight needs to be within 1cm of the correct place in my
experience on a car that's fussy about balance, and there's no way a lot of
operators take the care to get it right, but this would be the same for off-car
and on-car balancing.
Post by Dave Plowman (News)
Post by Rob
Anyone know anywhere in Hampshire (preferably in south hampshire) that
can do on car wheel balancing?
Can I ask why? The chances of the hub and disc assembly being far enough
out to cause problems are remote, and the only way to accurately balance a
wheel/tyre combination is off the car.
--
*I went to school to become a wit, only got halfway through.
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Dave Plowman (News)
2004-06-28 08:28:08 UTC
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Post by Steve B
As I've always got a more precise wheel balance by balancing on the car
compared with any off-car balancing, there must be some reason it's
better. I also don't believe it's anything to do with the balance of
the disc etc, so all that leaves is centering. The off-car balancing
machines I've seen all centre the wheel on the single hole in the middle
of the wheel, but on the car the wheel studs/nuts are used.
It's debatable which does the centring on a steel wheel with tapered nuts,
but on an ally one with 'parallel' ones it's usually the hole in the
middle.
Post by Steve B
You would only need a very small difference in the centering to throw a
good bit of weight to one side.
If the wheel is off centre, balancing ain't going to help much. In any
case, a part worn tyre is likely to be anything but perfectly 'round'.
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Dave Plowman ***@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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CampinGazz
2004-06-28 15:51:30 UTC
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Post by Dave Plowman (News)
Post by Rob
Anyone know anywhere in Hampshire (preferably in south hampshire) that
can do on car wheel balancing?
Can I ask why? The chances of the hub and disc assembly being far enough
out to cause problems are remote, and the only way to accurately balance a
wheel/tyre combination is off the car.
The manual for my Van (98 iveco turbodaily) says to have the wheels balanced
on the van.. there's a lot of rotating mass there i guess (the discs on this
van are fairly large.. especialy compared to a cars discs, and the whole hub
assembly is heavy and over engineered)

For me on van wheel balancing is much better, it's always worked for me,
where as when kwik fit put some new tyres on for me, and balanced the wheels
on their off van balancer, the result was terrible vibrations at certian
speeds.. a 'proper' balance as recomended by the makers of my van cured
this,

I like the idea of the on vehicle balancing.. my wheel trims are the truck
bolt on style.. stainless steel, so not as light as plastic ones, so they're
taken into consideration when the whole rotating assembly is being balanced
on the vehicle as well.

Horses for courses tho, some like it, some dont.. it seems to be very common
in holland last time i was there and a few members of our convoy needed new
tyres.. some got them even tho they didnt need them.. as they were much
cheaper over there.

Chris
2004-06-28 06:38:16 UTC
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Post by Rob
Anyone know anywhere in Hampshire (preferably in south hampshire) that can
do on car wheel balancing?
Cheers
Rob
Collins Tyre Services, Hilsea, Portsmouth.
Tel: 02392 694741

Cost £20 inc for two wheels last time I was there.
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