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Glow plug timer relay
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newshound
2020-02-14 16:20:02 UTC
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This seems to be misbehaving on my ATV (this has a 3 cylinder diesel,
badged Caterpillar but presumably Japanese, and has a "glow plug on"
light). From a quick eBay, I can get one for a Freelander for £15.
There's a separate relay on the engine to switch the glowplug current, I
can't see any obvious reason why a Freelander timer should not work.
(Obviously, I may have to fiddle with the terminals but I have a
workshop manual for the ATV so it's easy to work out the connections)-.

I did just wonder whether to fit a manual switch, perhaps a "spring off" one
MrCheerful
2020-02-14 16:45:03 UTC
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Post by newshound
This seems to be misbehaving on my ATV (this has a 3 cylinder diesel,
badged Caterpillar but presumably Japanese, and has a "glow plug on"
light). From a quick eBay, I can get one for a Freelander for £15.
There's a separate relay on the engine to switch the glowplug current, I
can't see any obvious reason why a Freelander timer should not work.
(Obviously, I may have to fiddle with the terminals but I have a
workshop manual for the ATV so it's easy to work out the connections)-.
I did just wonder whether to fit a manual switch, perhaps a "spring off" one
once it runs you shouldn't need them on anymore, so a simple switch or
push button would be ideal for anyone with a little knowledge, the timer
is for the less mechanically minded plug and play generation.
Tim+
2020-02-14 18:01:52 UTC
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Post by MrCheerful
Post by newshound
This seems to be misbehaving on my ATV (this has a 3 cylinder diesel,
badged Caterpillar but presumably Japanese, and has a "glow plug on"
light). From a quick eBay, I can get one for a Freelander for £15.
There's a separate relay on the engine to switch the glowplug current, I
can't see any obvious reason why a Freelander timer should not work.
(Obviously, I may have to fiddle with the terminals but I have a
workshop manual for the ATV so it's easy to work out the connections)-.
I did just wonder whether to fit a manual switch, perhaps a "spring off" one
once it runs you shouldn't need them on anymore, so a simple switch or
push button would be ideal for anyone with a little knowledge, the timer
is for the less mechanically minded plug and play generation.
Not just that I think. Many diesels keep the plugs running for longer than
the panel warning light would have you believe for emission control. For
an ATV I’d just have a simple sprung “push to make contact” button switch
though.

Tim
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MrCheerful
2020-02-14 18:24:47 UTC
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Post by MrCheerful
Post by newshound
This seems to be misbehaving on my ATV (this has a 3 cylinder diesel,
badged Caterpillar but presumably Japanese, and has a "glow plug on"
light). From a quick eBay, I can get one for a Freelander for £15.
There's a separate relay on the engine to switch the glowplug current, I
can't see any obvious reason why a Freelander timer should not work.
(Obviously, I may have to fiddle with the terminals but I have a
workshop manual for the ATV so it's easy to work out the connections)-.
I did just wonder whether to fit a manual switch, perhaps a "spring off" one
once it runs you shouldn't need them on anymore, so a simple switch or
push button would be ideal for anyone with a little knowledge, the timer
is for the less mechanically minded plug and play generation.
Not just that I think. Many diesels keep the plugs running for longer than
the panel warning light would have you believe for emission control. For
an ATV I’d just have a simple sprung “push to make contact” button switch
though.
Tim
certainly, but this is not a california car, even if you were to remove
the glow plugs entirely and start them on easy start a modern diesel
would still make the emission standards needed for the mot.

The OP states that it is an ATV, so it really doesn't matter.
newshound
2020-02-16 18:54:22 UTC
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Post by MrCheerful
Post by newshound
This seems to be misbehaving on my ATV (this has a 3 cylinder diesel,
badged Caterpillar but presumably Japanese, and has a "glow plug on"
light). From a quick eBay, I can get one for a Freelander for £15.
There's a separate relay on the engine to switch the glowplug current,
I can't see any obvious reason why a Freelander timer should not work.
(Obviously, I may have to fiddle with the terminals but I have a
workshop manual for the ATV so it's easy to work out the connections)-.
I did just wonder whether to fit a manual switch, perhaps a "spring off" one
once it runs you shouldn't need them on anymore, so a simple switch or
push button would be ideal for anyone with a little knowledge, the timer
is for the less mechanically minded plug and play generation.
Thanks. I'll have a poke around. My mechanic friend also suggested it
might be worth checking that all three glow plugs still work, which
means whipping off the "bus-bar" that daisy-chains the power from the
first to the rest.

The disadvantage with a simple switch is that access to the back of the
dash is a bit fiddly, whereas even if the landy one has different sized
terminals these are fairly accessible.

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