What to stick on his windscreen which wont come off easily? [OT]

[Zak]

This is slightly off-topic but posted to groups where I figure
people would have some good ideas to help me out.

------

I live in a small block of flats near London. When they go
shopping some people like to park in our car park. If this does
not happen much then we just accept it.

However, recently a small number of strangers have started parking
here regularly and some leave their car here all day while they
are at work.

There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning notices
and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are ignored.
These peristent parkers also ignore our little notes left under
the wipers asking them not to park in our car park.

SO THIS IS MY PLAN. I reckon I should now stick a A4-sized
"Please Do Not Park Here" notice on the windscreen of these
regular parkers and make sure the notice is attached with some
sort of glue that takes them a long time to remove.

What do you suggest I use for glue? If I use some rubbery sort of
compound like Bostik or Evostik then it will cost quite a bit as I
probably need a tube of the glue for each notice. If I use a
hard-setting glue like superglue then it will probably come off
with an ice-scraper as the wind screen will probably be a bit
dirty & dusty.

Can I buy and preprinted EXTRA-MESSY self adhesive notices which
say "Please Do Not Park Here" ?

Any ideas as to what (relatively cheap) adhesive I can use would
be welcome.

[Mark Trueman]

they used to do this at our uni if you parked without a pass.
Unfortunately they got done by the law for sticking un-removable stuff
on the windscreens.

They got round it by sticking them on the rear side windows, any other
window is asking for trouble.

[sme]

On Fri, 20 May 2005 08:53:10 GMT and in uk.rec.cars.misc, Mark Trueman
wrote....

Post by Mark Trueman
they used to do this at our uni if you parked without a pass.
Unfortunately they got done by the law for sticking un-removable stuff
on the windscreens.
They got round it by sticking them on the rear side windows, any other
window is asking for trouble.

I was thinking that myself. I thought it wa sclassed as an act of vandalism
if you attach something to a car which hinders the drivers view.
Windscreens were a definate no-no and side windows were ok (the front ones
could be wound down to see their mirror), which was why you used to see so
many people leave car parks with their window down in the rain.

I used to have a similar problem where i lived, but it was a public road so
anyone could park. The problem was people watching you and even following
you to see if you got into a car so they could get your space. On a few
occasions, when i was sitting in the car warming it up, people knocked on
my windscreen to ask if i was going out so they could get the space!

Letting down at least 2 tyres is probably the easiest option and it does no
damage.

[Christian McArdle]

Post by Zak
However, recently a small number of strangers have started parking
here regularly and some leave their car here all day while they
are at work.

Let down all the tyres. Every time. It'll take them longer to move that day,
but they should get the message in future.

Christian.

[Christian McArdle]

Post by Christian McArdle
Let down all the tyres. Every time. It'll take them longer to move that day,
but they should get the message in future.

P.S. Also leave a note on the windscreen so that some inobservant cretin
doesn't try to drive off in that condition. Also, don't get caught on CCTV
doing it.

Christian.

[noman]

Letting down the tyres will probably damage the tyre beyond repair, even if
they don't drive on it.

Whilst this may cure your problem you may be letting yourself in for a
revenge attack.

Just not worth it.

Noman

[Clive George]

Post by noman
Letting down the tyres will probably damage the tyre beyond repair, even if
they don't drive on it.

For some very low value of 'probably'. Ie no, it won't.

clive

[Zak]

Post by noman
Letting down the tyres will probably damage the tyre beyond
repair, even if they don't drive on it.
Whilst this may cure your problem you may be letting yourself in
for a revenge attack.
Just not worth it.

I am ther OP and I agree that I don't want to expose myself open to a
revenge attack. We are in a small block of flats and it wouldn't be
hard to ask all the residents who had done it.

So I just want to be "over-enthusiastic" with my adhesive. Not
obviously causing trouble (heh!) but just making a simple mistake
about how sticky it is.

[Russell]

Post by Christian McArdle
Let down all the tyres. Every time. It'll take them longer to move that day,
but they should get the message in future.

Better still, take out the valves as well. I get cursed with this
problem in our close.

Russell

[Depresion]

Post by Christian McArdle

Post by Christian McArdle
Let down all the tyres. Every time. It'll take them longer to move

that day,

Post by Christian McArdle
but they should get the message in future.

Better still, take out the valves as well. I get cursed with this
problem in our close.

Adding theft to criminal damage.

[§|ª®TiߪRtfª$t]

A pre-printed (not inkjet) label secured with Solvite is very difficult to
remove, paste the screen first, then again over the entire label.

Post by Zak
This is slightly off-topic but posted to groups where I figure
people would have some good ideas to help me out.
------
I live in a small block of flats near London. When they go
shopping some people like to park in our car park. If this does
not happen much then we just accept it.
However, recently a small number of strangers have started parking
here regularly and some leave their car here all day while they
are at work.
There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning notices
and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are ignored.
These peristent parkers also ignore our little notes left under
the wipers asking them not to park in our car park.
SO THIS IS MY PLAN. I reckon I should now stick a A4-sized
"Please Do Not Park Here" notice on the windscreen of these
regular parkers and make sure the notice is attached with some
sort of glue that takes them a long time to remove.
What do you suggest I use for glue? If I use some rubbery sort of
compound like Bostik or Evostik then it will cost quite a bit as I
probably need a tube of the glue for each notice. If I use a
hard-setting glue like superglue then it will probably come off
with an ice-scraper as the wind screen will probably be a bit
dirty & dusty.
Can I buy and preprinted EXTRA-MESSY self adhesive notices which
say "Please Do Not Park Here" ?
Any ideas as to what (relatively cheap) adhesive I can use would
be welcome.

[Zak]

Post by §|ª®TiߪRtfª$t
A pre-printed (not inkjet) label secured with Solvite is very
difficult to remove, paste the screen first, then again over the
entire label.

Hmm, Solvite. That sounds good. Cheaper than the fancy adhesives
too. I was thinking that I should use some really crappy paper so
that the sheet left half itself when the driver driver tried to
remove it.

[John Rumm]

Post by Zak
Hmm, Solvite. That sounds good. Cheaper than the fancy adhesives
too. I was thinking that I should use some really crappy paper so
that the sheet left half itself when the driver driver tried to
remove it.

If you want the driver to run over some innocent pedestrian because he
can't see out of the car.....
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Cheers,

John.

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[Zak]

Post by John Rumm

Post by Zak
Hmm, Solvite. That sounds good. Cheaper than the fancy
adhesives too. I was thinking that I should use some really
crappy paper so that the sheet left half itself when the driver
driver tried to remove it.

If you want the driver to run over some innocent pedestrian
because he can't see out of the car.....

Of course the driver will realise that his car is not roadworthy and
that he must not drive it on public roads.

[Mary Fisher]

Post by Zak
This is slightly off-topic but posted to groups where I figure
people would have some good ideas to help me out.
------
I live in a small block of flats near London. When they go
shopping some people like to park in our car park. If this does
not happen much then we just accept it.
However, recently a small number of strangers have started parking
here regularly and some leave their car here all day while they
are at work.
There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning notices
and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are ignored.
These peristent parkers also ignore our little notes left under
the wipers asking them not to park in our car park.
SO THIS IS MY PLAN. I reckon I should now stick a A4-sized
"Please Do Not Park Here" notice on the windscreen of these
regular parkers and make sure the notice is attached with some
sort of glue that takes them a long time to remove.
What do you suggest I use for glue? If I use some rubbery sort of
compound like Bostik or Evostik then it will cost quite a bit as I
probably need a tube of the glue for each notice. If I use a
hard-setting glue like superglue then it will probably come off
with an ice-scraper as the wind screen will probably be a bit
dirty & dusty.
Can I buy and preprinted EXTRA-MESSY self adhesive notices which
say "Please Do Not Park Here" ?
Any ideas as to what (relatively cheap) adhesive I can use would
be welcome.

It's probably illegal to do such a thing but I do sympathise with you.

Car and car related offences are, in my opinion, the cause of more
frustrations than anything else. I'd like to do what you suggest on cars
which park in disabled bays (nose in, facing the large restrictive
notices).I'd like to do it on the cars which park on pavements, forcing
pedestrians to walk in the road, I'd like to do it on cars which park across
people's drives - even when there's a car in that drive.

And lots more.

Grrrrrrrrrr.

Mary

[Simon Finnigan]

Post by Mary Fisher

Post by Zak
This is slightly off-topic but posted to groups where I figure
people would have some good ideas to help me out.
------
I live in a small block of flats near London. When they go
shopping some people like to park in our car park. If this does
not happen much then we just accept it.
However, recently a small number of strangers have started parking
here regularly and some leave their car here all day while they
are at work.
There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning notices
and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are ignored.
These peristent parkers also ignore our little notes left under
the wipers asking them not to park in our car park.
SO THIS IS MY PLAN. I reckon I should now stick a A4-sized
"Please Do Not Park Here" notice on the windscreen of these
regular parkers and make sure the notice is attached with some
sort of glue that takes them a long time to remove.
What do you suggest I use for glue? If I use some rubbery sort of
compound like Bostik or Evostik then it will cost quite a bit as I
probably need a tube of the glue for each notice. If I use a
hard-setting glue like superglue then it will probably come off
with an ice-scraper as the wind screen will probably be a bit
dirty & dusty.
Can I buy and preprinted EXTRA-MESSY self adhesive notices which
say "Please Do Not Park Here" ?
Any ideas as to what (relatively cheap) adhesive I can use would
be welcome.

It's probably illegal to do such a thing but I do sympathise with you.
Car and car related offences are, in my opinion, the cause of more
frustrations than anything else. I'd like to do what you suggest on cars
which park in disabled bays (nose in, facing the large restrictive
notices).I'd like to do it on the cars which park on pavements, forcing
pedestrians to walk in the road, I'd like to do it on cars which park
across people's drives - even when there's a car in that drive.

I used to LOVE putting stickers on the cars in disabled bays when I worked
in a supermarket. Big A4 sheets that took hours to scrape off. Then I`d
stand by the car and wait for the owner to come out. "Who put that on my
car????". "Me, is there a problem?". <rant rant rave, threaten, abuse>.
<Smile nicely and explain that since they couldn`t read the big sign infront
of their car, we had thoughtfully decided to put one on their car to ensure
they knew for next time.> The other customers watching this used to wet
themselves laughing!

And if a cars on a pavement, squeeze past it! If you hit the wing mirror,
such a pity! :-)

[Christian McArdle]

Post by Simon Finnigan
And if a cars on a pavement, squeeze past it! If you hit the wing mirror,
such a pity! :-)

Yes, my route (on foot) to university used to pass through a hospital. Many
cars used to park on a particular pavement, making it very narrow, which was
very selfish, given that (a) there was a car park with plenty of spaces and
(b) the pavement became too narrow for wheelchairs, which are obviously very
common in hospitals, forcing wheelchairs into the road.

Of course, we clearly weren't careful enough when walking down the remaining
narrow path to avoid knocking the occasional mirror off...

Christian.

[b***@meeow.co.uk]

Post by Simon Finnigan
I used to LOVE putting stickers on the cars in disabled bays when I worked
in a supermarket. Big A4 sheets that took hours to scrape off. Then I`d
stand by the car and wait for the owner to come out. "Who put that on my
car????". "Me, is there a problem?". <rant rant rave, threaten, abuse>.
<Smile nicely and explain that since they couldn`t read the big sign infront
of their car, we had thoughtfully decided to put one on their car to ensure
they knew for next time.> The other customers watching this used to wet
themselves laughing!

And how did you know who was disabled and who wasnt? You sound like a
genuine plonker.

NT

[Christian McArdle]

Post by b***@meeow.co.uk
And how did you know who was disabled and who wasnt? You sound like a
genuine plonker.

There's a national scheme for disabled badges that indicates which cars are
permitted to used disabled spaces.

Christian.

[Steve Rainbird]

Post by Simon Finnigan

Post by Simon Finnigan
I used to LOVE putting stickers on the cars in disabled bays when I

worked

Post by Simon Finnigan
in a supermarket. Big A4 sheets that took hours to scrape off. Then

I`d

Post by Simon Finnigan
stand by the car and wait for the owner to come out. "Who put that

on my

Post by Simon Finnigan
car????". "Me, is there a problem?". <rant rant rave, threaten,

abuse>.

Post by Simon Finnigan
<Smile nicely and explain that since they couldn`t read the big sign

infront

Post by Simon Finnigan
of their car, we had thoughtfully decided to put one on their car to

ensure

Post by Simon Finnigan
they knew for next time.> The other customers watching this used to

wet

Post by Simon Finnigan
themselves laughing!

And how did you know who was disabled and who wasnt? You sound like a
genuine plonker.
NT

Have you never heard of disabled stickers in cars?

Its you who are the plonker!

[sme]

On Fri, 20 May 2005 10:11:25 GMT and in uk.rec.cars.misc, wrote....

Post by Simon Finnigan

Post by Simon Finnigan
I used to LOVE putting stickers on the cars in disabled bays when I

worked

Post by Simon Finnigan
in a supermarket. Big A4 sheets that took hours to scrape off. Then

I`d

Post by Simon Finnigan
stand by the car and wait for the owner to come out. "Who put that

on my

Post by Simon Finnigan
car????". "Me, is there a problem?". <rant rant rave, threaten,

abuse>.

Post by Simon Finnigan
<Smile nicely and explain that since they couldn`t read the big sign

infront

Post by Simon Finnigan
of their car, we had thoughtfully decided to put one on their car to

ensure

Post by Simon Finnigan
they knew for next time.> The other customers watching this used to

wet

Post by Simon Finnigan
themselves laughing!

And how did you know who was disabled and who wasnt? You sound like a
genuine plonker.

Surely a blue disability badge would have told him if the car owner was
disabled?

[Mary Fisher]

Post by Simon Finnigan

Post by Simon Finnigan
I used to LOVE putting stickers on the cars in disabled bays when I

worked

Post by Simon Finnigan
in a supermarket.

...

Post by Simon Finnigan
And how did you know who was disabled and who wasnt? You sound like a
genuine plonker.

The notices say the bays are for Blue Badge holders. The Blue Badges have
to be displayed in the front of the car.

I wish that more supermarkets enforced the rules.

Mary

Post by Simon Finnigan
NT

[The Natural Philosopher]

Post by Mary Fisher

Post by Simon Finnigan

Post by Simon Finnigan
I used to LOVE putting stickers on the cars in disabled bays when I

worked

Post by Simon Finnigan
in a supermarket.

...

Post by Simon Finnigan
And how did you know who was disabled and who wasnt? You sound like a
genuine plonker.

The notices say the bays are for Blue Badge holders. The Blue Badges have
to be displayed in the front of the car.
I wish that more supermarkets enforced the rules.

Frankly I wish they didn't.

In general disabled people seem to shop - understandingly - in quiet
times when there are lods of parking spaces available.

At peak times they are vnever there, and everyone is looking desperately
for parking spaces which are all full. Except the 30 odd disabled bays.

Post by Mary Fisher
Mary

Post by Simon Finnigan
NT

[Alan Gauton]

Post by Mary Fisher

Post by Simon Finnigan

Post by Simon Finnigan
I used to LOVE putting stickers on the cars in disabled bays when I

worked

Post by Simon Finnigan
in a supermarket.

...

Post by Simon Finnigan
And how did you know who was disabled and who wasnt? You sound like a
genuine plonker.

The notices say the bays are for Blue Badge holders. The Blue Badges have
to be displayed in the front of the car.
I wish that more supermarkets enforced the rules.

Me too - I would also love it if they do that for parents and kids
spaces as well.

[Adrian]

Post by Alan Gauton

Post by Mary Fisher
The notices say the bays are for Blue Badge holders. The Blue Badges
have to be displayed in the front of the car.
I wish that more supermarkets enforced the rules.

Yep, but *intelligently*.

My father's currently waiting for both knees to be replaced, and can barely
walk, even with two sticks. However, because it's a relatively short-term
thing, he can't get a blue badge. He's been threatened with clamping in his
local supermarket for parking in the disabled bays, as they are blue-badge
only. We've all seen perfectly able-bodied people abusing blue badges, too.

Post by Alan Gauton
Me too - I would also love it if they do that for parents and kids
spaces as well.

Personally, I wish people would leave their bloody kids at home when they
go to the supermarket. It'd make *everybody's* shopping less unpleasant
without the whining fractious brats that don't want to be there. I also
wish they'd train the little shits to look and think before slamming car
doors open onto other people's cars - but since many adults seem unable to
do that themselves...

[Alan Gauton]

Post by Adrian

Post by Alan Gauton

Post by Mary Fisher
The notices say the bays are for Blue Badge holders. The Blue Badges
have to be displayed in the front of the car.
I wish that more supermarkets enforced the rules.

Yep, but *intelligently*.
My father's currently waiting for both knees to be replaced, and can barely
walk, even with two sticks. However, because it's a relatively short-term
thing, he can't get a blue badge. He's been threatened with clamping in his
local supermarket for parking in the disabled bays, as they are blue-badge
only. We've all seen perfectly able-bodied people abusing blue badges, too.

How do you know they're able-bodied? Some of my family have a blue
badge, but don't look like they need it. Sometimes the problems are
internal, not obvious, such as having lungs missing, ....

Post by Adrian

Post by Alan Gauton
Me too - I would also love it if they do that for parents and kids
spaces as well.

Personally, I wish people would leave their bloody kids at home when they
go to the supermarket. It'd make *everybody's* shopping less unpleasant
without the whining fractious brats that don't want to be there. I also
wish they'd train the little shits to look and think before slamming car
doors open onto other people's cars - but since many adults seem unable to
do that themselves...

So when I go to Asda to pick up my wife after work, I leave my 4 year
old and my 17 month (disabled) at home. Not everybody can leave them at
home. And my 4 year old is careful, as she can't open the doors herself
anyway.

[John Rumm]

Post by Adrian
Personally, I wish people would leave their bloody kids at home when they
go to the supermarket. It'd make *everybody's* shopping less unpleasant

I Think you will find that is often called child abuse or neglect....
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Cheers,

John.

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Post by Alan Gauton

Post by Mary Fisher
I wish that more supermarkets enforced the rules.

Me too - I would also love it if they do that for parents and kids
spaces as well.

I want to know if there are age limits on the parents and kids spaces.

My Mum and I go shopping together most weeks, does that mean we can use
them? ;-)

[Alan Gauton]

Post by Emma

Post by Alan Gauton

Post by Mary Fisher
I wish that more supermarkets enforced the rules.

Me too - I would also love it if they do that for parents and kids
spaces as well.

I want to know if there are age limits on the parents and kids spaces.
My Mum and I go shopping together most weeks, does that mean we can use
them? ;-)

Yeah, I wondered about that, but in general I always reckoned that up
until the age of about 12 is acceptable. Anything older than that the
kids should be capable of looking after themselves.

[Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)]

Post by Alan Gauton
Me too - I would also love it if they do that for parents and kids
spaces as well.

Kids are self inflicted. Disability in general is not. Therefore, your kids
can walk and make way for those who genuinely can't.

[Steve Walker]

Post by Alan Gauton

Post by Mary Fisher

Post by Simon Finnigan

Post by Simon Finnigan
I used to LOVE putting stickers on the cars in disabled bays when I

worked

Post by Simon Finnigan
in a supermarket.

...

Post by Simon Finnigan
And how did you know who was disabled and who wasnt? You sound like a
genuine plonker.

The notices say the bays are for Blue Badge holders. The Blue Badges have
to be displayed in the front of the car.
I wish that more supermarkets enforced the rules.

Me too - I would also love it if they do that for parents and kids
spaces as well.

Yes, if they also enforced a "no accompanied breeders" area where one
could park without someone else's little darlings denting the car doors.

[b***@meeow.co.uk]

Post by Christian McArdle

Post by b***@meeow.co.uk
how did you know who was disabled and who wasnt? You sound like a
genuine plonker.

There's a national scheme for disabled badges that indicates which

cars are

Post by Christian McArdle
permitted to used disabled spaces.

it indicates which cars are able to use blue badge spaces, not disabled
spaces. While some do mark their spaces as for badge holders, more
often theyre marked as for disabled people. The 2 categories are not
the same.

Post by Christian McArdle
Have you never heard of disabled stickers in cars?

obviously. else I wouldnt be commenting on this. This confusion between
disabled, wheelchair users and blue badge holders is a persistent
problem.

Post by Christian McArdle
Surely a blue disability badge would have told him if the car owner

was

Post by Christian McArdle
disabled?

no, it tells you if the driver has a blue badge. Many disabled do not
have those badges.


NT

[Alan Gauton]

Post by b***@meeow.co.uk

Post by sme
Surely a blue disability badge would have told him if the car owner

was

Post by sme
disabled?

no, it tells you if the driver has a blue badge. Many disabled do not
have those badges.

No, it tells you an occupant of the car is disabled. We don't have one
for our son because he is a) too young, and b) not disabled enough
(which is stupid given he has a physical and mental disability).

[Mary Fisher]

Post by Simon Finnigan
And if a cars on a pavement, squeeze past it! If you hit the wing mirror,
such a pity! :-)

I admit that I do have a few bruises on my arm - but that's when I CAN
squeeze past. Those with push chairs and in wheelchairs can't.

And it doesn't stop them doing it again anyway :-(

What makes it worse is that all the houses in this street have drives,
usually empty.

Mary

[Depresion]

Post by Simon Finnigan
And if a cars on a pavement, squeeze past it! If you hit the wing mirror,
such a pity! :-)

I admit that I do have a few bruises on my arm - but that's when I CAN squeeze
past. Those with push chairs and in wheelchairs can't.

And if the owner notices you doing it and comes out and equally accidentally
knocks you teeth out?

[Gøñzølã]

Post by Depresion

Post by Simon Finnigan
And if a cars on a pavement, squeeze past it! If you hit the wing mirror,
such a pity! :-)

I admit that I do have a few bruises on my arm - but that's when I CAN squeeze
past. Those with push chairs and in wheelchairs can't.

And if the owner notices you doing it and comes out and equally accidentally
knocks you teeth out?

Then he can come back and ask which dentist is doin a deal on
dentures.

[Zak]

Post by Simon Finnigan
I used to LOVE putting stickers on the cars in disabled bays
when I worked in a supermarket. Big A4 sheets that took hours
to scrape off. Then I`d stand by the car and wait for the owner
to come out. "Who put that on my car????". "Me, is there a
problem?". <rant rant rave, threaten, abuse>. <Smile nicely and
explain that since they couldn`t read the big sign infront of
their car, we had thoughtfully decided to put one on their car
to ensure they knew for next time.> The other customers
watching this used to wet themselves laughing!

I am the OP and those stickers sound just like what I am looking for!

Are they something I can buy? Of course I don't want a sticker which
is not sticky enough! :-)

[Zak]

Post by Mary Fisher
It's probably illegal to do such a thing but I do sympathise
with you.

I wonder if it as illegal as some people suggest. This is a vehicle
(although it could be a wheelbarrow or a large oil drum as far as I
care) which is on our property.

I want to leave a note for the owner. If my "over-enthusiastic"
adhesive means they can't drive off without being a danger on the
public roads then they should not take the vehicle from the private
land it is on. They can leave it there until they have cleaned the
vehicle's screen to roadworthy condition.

I am sure this is a better solution in the end than using superglue
in their door lock or doing something as drastic as that.

[Depresion]

Post by Zak

Post by Mary Fisher
It's probably illegal to do such a thing but I do sympathise
with you.

I wonder if it as illegal as some people suggest. This is a vehicle
(although it could be a wheelbarrow or a large oil drum as far as I
care) which is on our property.

That's a cyvil matter, what you are proposing could be classed as criminal
damadge, as the name sugests that's a criminal matter. Unless you are very
careful you could end up with a criminal record and the possibility of jail
time. (Unfortunately not enough of a possibility of jail time as criminal damage
doesn't attract the sort of sentencing it once did.)

[Paul Cummins]

Post by Mary Fisher
I'd like to do what you suggest on cars
which park in disabled bays

I have a sticker that says "You've had my parking space, do you want my
disability as well?" on both sides.

I stick it over the steering wheel on the windscreen using a thin layer
of no-more-nails.

[Pete M]

In news:***@204.153.244.156,
Zak <***@nomail.invalid> decided to enlighten our sheltered souls with a
rant as follows

Post by Zak
This is slightly off-topic but posted to groups where I figure
people would have some good ideas to help me out.
What do you suggest I use for glue? If I use some rubbery sort of
compound like Bostik or Evostik then it will cost quite a bit as I
probably need a tube of the glue for each notice. If I use a
hard-setting glue like superglue then it will probably come off
with an ice-scraper as the wind screen will probably be a bit
dirty & dusty.
Can I buy and preprinted EXTRA-MESSY self adhesive notices which
say "Please Do Not Park Here" ?
Any ideas as to what (relatively cheap) adhesive I can use would
be welcome.

Don't use adhesive.

You know what's 10 times as annoying?

McDonalds gherkins.

If you put one of those on a window on a sunny day, they're a total pig to
remove. Has to be a genuine McDonalds one though, it's the sauce... They
have the same adhesive qualities as a sticky thing, and said parkers will
think kids have been targeting their cars.. We all know the last people we
want messing with our car is kids. Scarier than any label, sticker etc.

Alternatively, just put up with people parking in your car park, or move to
somewhere where there's more room. After all, who'd live down South?

[Mary Fisher]

"Pete M" <***@blue-nopressedmeat-yonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:428dae17$0$79465>>


...

Post by Pete M
Alternatively, just put up with people parking in your car park, or move
to somewhere where there's more room. After all, who'd live down South?

I don't (I wouldn't) and we still have a problem.

Mary

Post by Pete M
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[Zak]

Post by Pete M
Don't use adhesive.
You know what's 10 times as annoying?
McDonalds gherkins.
If you put one of those on a window on a sunny day, they're a
total pig to remove. Has to be a genuine McDonalds one though,
it's the sauce... They have the same adhesive qualities as a
sticky thing, and said parkers will think kids have been
targeting their cars.. We all know the last people we want
messing with our car is kids. Scarier than any label, sticker
etc.
Alternatively, just put up with people parking in your car park,
or move to somewhere where there's more room. After all, who'd
live down South?

Now this sounds rather nice. But who can guarantee a sunny day? And
there is no McDonalds nearby but I reckon that something like brown
sauce (or something similar) might do the trick if it hards enough to
be essentially insoluble in windscreenwasher water.

[Grouch]

Post by Zak
This is slightly off-topic but posted to groups where I figure
people would have some good ideas to help me out.
------
I live in a small block of flats near London. When they go
shopping some people like to park in our car park. If this does
not happen much then we just accept it.
However, recently a small number of strangers have started parking
here regularly and some leave their car here all day while they
are at work.
There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning notices
and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are ignored.
These peristent parkers also ignore our little notes left under
the wipers asking them not to park in our car park.
SO THIS IS MY PLAN. I reckon I should now stick a A4-sized
"Please Do Not Park Here" notice on the windscreen of these
regular parkers and make sure the notice is attached with some
sort of glue that takes them a long time to remove.
What do you suggest I use for glue? If I use some rubbery sort of
compound like Bostik or Evostik then it will cost quite a bit as I
probably need a tube of the glue for each notice. If I use a
hard-setting glue like superglue then it will probably come off
with an ice-scraper as the wind screen will probably be a bit
dirty & dusty.
Can I buy and preprinted EXTRA-MESSY self adhesive notices which
say "Please Do Not Park Here" ?
Any ideas as to what (relatively cheap) adhesive I can use would
be welcome.

You say OUR car park, what do you mean by this? does it have 'residents
parking only'?does it have a council parking sign saying no parking at any
time? if not then it's parking facility for anyone, at any time, at any day

[Zak]

Post by Grouch

Post by Zak
I live in a small block of flats near London. When they go
shopping some people like to park in our car park. If this
does not happen much then we just accept it.
However, recently a small number of strangers have started
parking here regularly and some leave their car here all day
while they are at work.
There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning
notices and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are
ignored. These peristent parkers also ignore our little notes
left under the wipers asking them not to park in our car park.
SO THIS IS MY PLAN. I reckon I should now stick a A4-sized
"Please Do Not Park Here" notice on the windscreen of these
regular parkers and make sure the notice is attached with some
sort of glue that takes them a long time to remove.
What do you suggest I use for glue? If I use some rubbery sort
of compound like Bostik or Evostik then it will cost quite a
bit as I probably need a tube of the glue for each notice. If
I use a hard-setting glue like superglue then it will probably
come off with an ice-scraper as the wind screen will probably
be a bit dirty & dusty.
Can I buy and preprinted EXTRA-MESSY self adhesive notices
which say "Please Do Not Park Here" ?
Any ideas as to what (relatively cheap) adhesive I can use
would be welcome.

You say OUR car park, what do you mean by this? does it have
'residents parking only'?does it have a council parking sign
saying no parking at any time? if not then it's parking facility
for anyone, at any time, at any day

The flats I live in are privately owned and so is our car park.

It seems to me to be pretty much the same thing as you living in a
house and having your own car parking area next to the house.

[Depresion]

Post by Zak

Post by Grouch

Post by Zak
I live in a small block of flats near London. When they go
shopping some people like to park in our car park. If this
does not happen much then we just accept it.
However, recently a small number of strangers have started
parking here regularly and some leave their car here all day
while they are at work.
There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning
notices and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are
ignored. These peristent parkers also ignore our little notes
left under the wipers asking them not to park in our car park.
SO THIS IS MY PLAN. I reckon I should now stick a A4-sized
"Please Do Not Park Here" notice on the windscreen of these
regular parkers and make sure the notice is attached with some
sort of glue that takes them a long time to remove.
What do you suggest I use for glue? If I use some rubbery sort
of compound like Bostik or Evostik then it will cost quite a
bit as I probably need a tube of the glue for each notice. If
I use a hard-setting glue like superglue then it will probably
come off with an ice-scraper as the wind screen will probably
be a bit dirty & dusty.
Can I buy and preprinted EXTRA-MESSY self adhesive notices
which say "Please Do Not Park Here" ?
Any ideas as to what (relatively cheap) adhesive I can use
would be welcome.

You say OUR car park, what do you mean by this? does it have
'residents parking only'?does it have a council parking sign
saying no parking at any time? if not then it's parking facility
for anyone, at any time, at any day

The flats I live in are privately owned and so is our car park.
It seems to me to be pretty much the same thing as you living in a
house and having your own car parking area next to the house.

Are you or are you not the land owner for the car park?

[s--p--o--n--i--x]

Post by Zak
This is slightly off-topic but posted to groups where I figure
people would have some good ideas to help me out.

<snip>

Dog poo under the door handles. Put it there with a stick.

They'll think kids do it and won't park there again.

sponix

[Gøñzølã]

Post by s--p--o--n--i--x

Post by Zak
This is slightly off-topic but posted to groups where I figure
people would have some good ideas to help me out.

<snip>
Dog poo under the door handles. Put it there with a stick.
They'll think kids do it and won't park there again.

And we thought the yob culture was kids, the ones that walk with a
limp and talk like Kenzie.

[m***@hotmail.com]

Post by s--p--o--n--i--x

Post by Zak
This is slightly off-topic but posted to groups where I figure
people would have some good ideas to help me out.

<snip>
Dog poo under the door handles. Put it there with a stick.
They'll think kids do it and won't park there again.
sponix

With a drawing pin buried in it so hopefully they have the urge to suck
their finger/thumb when it gets pricked.

MBQ

[David Lang]

Hi Zak

Post by Zak
There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning notices
and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are ignored.

The fake notices are a good idea, but you need to reinforce them with some
psycology.

Put up some new, bigger notices that look differenet. The inference is that
a new company has taken over.

Beg borrow or steal a wheel clamp. I think you can hire them. Or make a
mock one from MDF & paint it bright yellow.

Fix this to your own car with a big label on the windscreen in yellow/black.
Leave in conspicuous position. Repeat next day with neighboors car.

Dave

Post by Zak
These peristent parkers also ignore our little notes left under
the wipers asking them not to park in our car park.
SO THIS IS MY PLAN. I reckon I should now stick a A4-sized
"Please Do Not Park Here" notice on the windscreen of these
regular parkers and make sure the notice is attached with some
sort of glue that takes them a long time to remove.
What do you suggest I use for glue? If I use some rubbery sort of
compound like Bostik or Evostik then it will cost quite a bit as I
probably need a tube of the glue for each notice. If I use a
hard-setting glue like superglue then it will probably come off
with an ice-scraper as the wind screen will probably be a bit
dirty & dusty.
Can I buy and preprinted EXTRA-MESSY self adhesive notices which
say "Please Do Not Park Here" ?
Any ideas as to what (relatively cheap) adhesive I can use would
be welcome.

[Gøñzølã]

Post by David Lang
Hi Zak

Post by Zak
There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning

notices

Post by David Lang

Post by Zak
and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are ignored.

The fake notices are a good idea, but you need to reinforce them with some
psycology.
Put up some new, bigger notices that look differenet. The

inference is that

Post by David Lang
a new company has taken over.
Beg borrow or steal a wheel clamp. I think you can hire them. Or make a
mock one from MDF & paint it bright yellow.
Fix this to your own car with a big label on the windscreen in

yellow/black.

Post by David Lang
Leave in conspicuous position. Repeat next day with neighboors car.

They'll probly get round that one by clampin their own 4 wheels of
the car.

[b***@meeow.co.uk]

Post by David Lang
The fake notices are a good idea, but you need to reinforce them with some
psycology.
Put up some new, bigger notices that look differenet. The inference is that
a new company has taken over.
Beg borrow or steal a wheel clamp. I think you can hire them. Or make a
mock one from MDF & paint it bright yellow.
Fix this to your own car with a big label on the windscreen in

yellow/black.

Post by David Lang
Leave in conspicuous position. Repeat next day with neighboors car.

Clever. But why fake it when you can do it for real?

NT

[Stuart Noble]

Post by David Lang
Hi Zak

Post by Zak
There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning notices
and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are ignored.

The fake notices are a good idea, but you need to reinforce them with some
psycology.
Put up some new, bigger notices that look differenet. The inference is that
a new company has taken over.
Beg borrow or steal a wheel clamp. I think you can hire them. Or make a
mock one from MDF & paint it bright yellow.
Fix this to your own car with a big label on the windscreen in
yellow/black.
Leave in conspicuous position. Repeat next day with neighboors car.

Or just employ a wheel clamping firm. I can't imagine they would charge
you
given the profits


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Post by Stuart Noble
Or just employ a wheel clamping firm. I can't imagine they would
charge you given the profits

The problem is that these firms get out of control. They'll start clamping
not only your visitors, but the owner's cars too, and ambulances, police
cars, slow moving zimmer frames etc.

Christian.

[Mary Fisher]

Post by Christian McArdle

Post by Stuart Noble
Or just employ a wheel clamping firm. I can't imagine they would
charge you given the profits

The problem is that these firms get out of control. They'll start clamping
not only your visitors, but the owner's cars too, and ambulances, police
cars, slow moving zimmer frames etc.

You know, Christian, if you want to sound humorous you should use a smily.
If you're serious you're not sensible.

Mary

Post by Christian McArdle
Christian.

[Des]

Post by Stuart Noble
Or just employ a wheel clamping firm. I can't imagine they would charge
you
given the profits

Good thing in Scotland, wheel clamping firms were made illegal, I think the
reason was.., they were holding you to ransom! which is illegal!
(doesn't stop the police putting you car on the back of a lorry and taking
it away and then taking £150 to get it back)

[GwG]

Post by Des

Post by Stuart Noble
Or just employ a wheel clamping firm. I can't imagine they would charge
you
given the profits

Good thing in Scotland, wheel clamping firms were made illegal, I think the
reason was.., they were holding you to ransom! which is illegal!
(doesn't stop the police putting you car on the back of a lorry and taking
it away and then taking £150 to get it back)

I think this is now the case in England, (unless the clamping firms are
authorised, which most aren't). This is probably why the notices are being
ignored.

[GwG]

Post by GwG

Post by Des

Post by Stuart Noble
Or just employ a wheel clamping firm. I can't imagine they would charge
you
given the profits

Good thing in Scotland, wheel clamping firms were made illegal, I think the
reason was.., they were holding you to ransom! which is illegal!
(doesn't stop the police putting you car on the back of a lorry and taking
it away and then taking £150 to get it back)

I think this is now the case in England, (unless the clamping firms are
authorised, which most aren't). This is probably why the notices are being
ignored.

Just checked on this, and wheel clamping is now illegal unless the firms are
authorised, more details on the following link:-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4507695.stm

[Mary Fisher]

"Des" <***@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:O0jje.10401$***@newsfe2->>
...

Post by Des
(doesn't stop the police putting you car on the back of a lorry and taking
it away and then taking £150 to get it back)

Never done that with our vehicles.

But then, we always park 100% legally.

Mary

[The Natural Philosopher]

Post by David Lang
Hi Zak

Post by Zak
There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning notices
and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are ignored.

The fake notices are a good idea, but you need to reinforce them with some
psycology.
Put up some new, bigger notices that look differenet. The inference is that
a new company has taken over.
Beg borrow or steal a wheel clamp. I think you can hire them. Or make a
mock one from MDF & paint it bright yellow.
Fix this to your own car with a big label on the windscreen in yellow/black.
Leave in conspicuous position. Repeat next day with neighboors car.

This sounds very very sensible.

[Depresion]

Post by David Lang
Hi Zak

Post by Zak
There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning notices
and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are ignored.

The fake notices are a good idea, but you need to reinforce them with some
psycology.
Put up some new, bigger notices that look differenet. The inference is that
a new company has taken over.
Beg borrow or steal a wheel clamp. I think you can hire them. Or make a
mock one from MDF & paint it bright yellow.
Fix this to your own car with a big label on the windscreen in yellow/black.
Leave in conspicuous position. Repeat next day with neighboors car.

It's nice to see a post not suggesting criminal damage.

[Rob graham]

I had this problem when I was staying at a friend's flat in France. His car
space was always used up. I used to park my car tight up behind the offender
so he had to find me to get it out. This obviuously only works if you have
enough space to do this without encroaching on the highway or someone else's
land.

Rob Graham

[Depresion]

Post by Rob graham
I had this problem when I was staying at a friend's flat in France. His car
space was always used up. I used to park my car tight up behind the offender so
he had to find me to get it out. This obviuously only works if you have enough
space to do this without encroaching on the highway or someone else's land.

You did that in France? That's brave, I know how the French tend to treat there
cars.

[Andy Dingley]

Post by Zak
What do you suggest I use for glue?

Water based. Gum or wallpaper paste based. Most of the other glues will
peel from glass, but pastes and gums are stronger than the paper.

Use weak paper too. Make them have to scrape it off inch by inch, not
peel the sheet.

[GB]

Post by Andy Dingley

Post by Zak
What do you suggest I use for glue?

Water based. Gum or wallpaper paste based. Most of the other glues will
peel from glass, but pastes and gums are stronger than the paper.
Use weak paper too. Make them have to scrape it off inch by inch, not
peel the sheet.

It's been said before, but you need to avoid criminal damage to the car.
Something that comes off is essential. So superglue is an absolute no-no.
Repeat: It has to come off fairly easily without damage to the car. By
fairly easily, maybe 3 or 4 mins with plenty of warm water. So, wallpaper
paste is probably good.

[Zak]

Post by Andy Dingley

Post by Zak
What do you suggest I use for glue?

Water based. Gum or wallpaper paste based. Most of the other
glues will peel from glass, but pastes and gums are stronger
than the paper.
Use weak paper too. Make them have to scrape it off inch by
inch, not peel the sheet.

Some very good suggestions for me in this short posting.

But won't the water-based gums or wallpaper paste just DISSOLVE if
they are left to soak for a minute or so in water from the windscreen
washer?

[Bob Eager]

Post by Zak
Some very good suggestions for me in this short posting.
But won't the water-based gums or wallpaper paste just DISSOLVE if
they are left to soak for a minute or so in water from the windscreen
washer?

Even a minute or two is probably enough to dissuade them. Anyway, how
easy is it (sometimes) to strip wallpaper, even with a steam stripper?
:-)

[paul ockenden]

Just write a nice message on his screen using a lipsalve, or
similar product. When you try to wipe it off it just smears -
it's a real pig to remove without hot water or chemicals.

P.

[Grouch]

Hmmm! don't anyone see spam when it's in front of them?

[Mary Fisher]

Post by Grouch
Hmmm! don't anyone see spam when it's in front of them?

You're suggesting we should stick Spam on the windscreen?

Not a bad idea actually ...

Mary

[Grouch]

Post by Mary Fisher

Post by Grouch
Hmmm! don't anyone see spam when it's in front of them?

You're suggesting we should stick Spam on the windscreen?
Not a bad idea actually ...
Mary

No Dear SPAM as in SPAM like this threaf has become because i'm posting this
in another group.

Your being voiced in over 15 other Newsgroups, God knows what the other
groups must of all this crap.

[Andy Turner]

Post by Grouch

Post by Mary Fisher

Post by Grouch
Hmmm! don't anyone see spam when it's in front of them?

You're suggesting we should stick Spam on the windscreen?
Not a bad idea actually ...
Mary

No Dear SPAM as in SPAM like this threaf has become because i'm posting this
in another group.
Your being voiced in over 15 other Newsgroups, God knows what the other
groups must of all this crap.

It looks like 4 to me - perhaps you can name them so as I can
understand what you're talking about.

Oh and doesn't spam usually include an advert of some sort...


andyt

[Mary Fisher]

Post by Grouch

Post by Mary Fisher
You're suggesting we should stick Spam on the windscreen?
Not a bad idea actually ...
Mary

No Dear SPAM as in SPAM like this threaf has become because i'm posting this
in another group.

Ah - the threaf, sorry I didn't realise.

Post by Grouch
Your being voiced in over 15 other Newsgroups, God knows what the other
groups must of all this crap.

er - my being? must what?

Mary

[m***@hotmail.com]

Post by Grouch

Post by Mary Fisher

Post by Grouch
Hmmm! don't anyone see spam when it's in front of them?

You're suggesting we should stick Spam on the windscreen?
Not a bad idea actually ...
Mary

No Dear SPAM as in SPAM like this threaf has become because i'm posting this
in another group.
Your being voiced in over 15 other Newsgroups, God knows what the other
groups must of all this crap.

The same as we make of you!

[Alfred Hitchcock]

Is this a private car park or for residents only.

There are legal ways to do it which take time and money and there is another
way which I used before.

Go out to B&Q or Wickes and buy a can of expanding foam. Inject some into
the exhaust pipe of the ignorant parkers. They will have to have the car
towed off the car park because it wont start but willl keep cutting out.

After they have had to pay to have an exhaust / silencer fitted they will
have second thoughts about parking there again.

Watch you dont get caught though.

Post by Zak
This is slightly off-topic but posted to groups where I figure
people would have some good ideas to help me out.
------
I live in a small block of flats near London. When they go
shopping some people like to park in our car park. If this does
not happen much then we just accept it.
However, recently a small number of strangers have started parking
here regularly and some leave their car here all day while they
are at work.
There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning notices
and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are ignored.
These peristent parkers also ignore our little notes left under
the wipers asking them not to park in our car park.
SO THIS IS MY PLAN. I reckon I should now stick a A4-sized
"Please Do Not Park Here" notice on the windscreen of these
regular parkers and make sure the notice is attached with some
sort of glue that takes them a long time to remove.
What do you suggest I use for glue? If I use some rubbery sort of
compound like Bostik or Evostik then it will cost quite a bit as I
probably need a tube of the glue for each notice. If I use a
hard-setting glue like superglue then it will probably come off
with an ice-scraper as the wind screen will probably be a bit
dirty & dusty.
Can I buy and preprinted EXTRA-MESSY self adhesive notices which
say "Please Do Not Park Here" ?
Any ideas as to what (relatively cheap) adhesive I can use would
be welcome.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Post by Alfred Hitchcock
Is this a private car park or for residents only.
There are legal ways to do it which take time and money and there is another
way which I used before.
Go out to B&Q or Wickes and buy a can of expanding foam. Inject some into
the exhaust pipe of the ignorant parkers. They will have to have the car
towed off the car park because it wont start but willl keep cutting out.
After they have had to pay to have an exhaust / silencer fitted they will
have second thoughts about parking there again.

Eaiser and cheaper is to ram a potato up it.

Post by Alfred Hitchcock
Watch you dont get caught though.

Indeed.

[Tony Bryer]

Post by The Natural Philosopher
Eaiser and cheaper is to ram a potato up it.

Another one time Jennings reader <g>

[R45six]

Post by Zak
SO THIS IS MY PLAN. I reckon I should now stick a A4-sized
"Please Do Not Park Here" notice on the windscreen of these
regular parkers and make sure the notice is attached with some
sort of glue that takes them a long time to remove.

I would suggest you do drivers door window,
they might not be able to drive their car away otherwise.

Someone once wrote on a friend of mines window with lipstick,
as he'd left it in our underpass, not actually in the way,
but they were obviously having a bad day.
It took him a fair bit of work getting the window clean,
that stuff is really greasy.

[Livewire]

Post by Zak
What do you suggest I use for glue? If I use some rubbery sort of
compound like Bostik or Evostik then it will cost quite a bit as I
probably need a tube of the glue for each notice. If I use a
hard-setting glue like superglue then it will probably come off
with an ice-scraper as the wind screen will probably be a bit
dirty & dusty.
Can I buy and preprinted EXTRA-MESSY self adhesive notices which
say "Please Do Not Park Here" ?
Any ideas as to what (relatively cheap) adhesive I can use would
be welcome.

Lovely story on Radio 4 Home Truths last week.

Someone regularly illegally parked a van with a dog in it.

They left the window slightly open for the dog.

Answer -- push a few slabs of laxative chocolate through the gap above
the window.

They didn't leave the van there again!

[James Dore]

In article <***@news.eclipse.co.uk>, livewire_100
@N.O.S.P.A.M.hotmail.com says...

Post by Livewire

Post by Zak
What do you suggest I use for glue? If I use some rubbery sort of
compound like Bostik or Evostik then it will cost quite a bit as I
probably need a tube of the glue for each notice. If I use a
hard-setting glue like superglue then it will probably come off
with an ice-scraper as the wind screen will probably be a bit
dirty & dusty.
Can I buy and preprinted EXTRA-MESSY self adhesive notices which
say "Please Do Not Park Here" ?
Any ideas as to what (relatively cheap) adhesive I can use would
be welcome.

Lovely story on Radio 4 Home Truths last week.
Someone regularly illegally parked a van with a dog in it.
They left the window slightly open for the dog.
Answer -- push a few slabs of laxative chocolate through the gap above
the window.
They didn't leave the van there again!

I don't understand: How did they associate the dog crapping itself with
their bad parking?

Cheers,

[Grouch]

Don't you people realise this is propagating throughtout various other
Newsgroups.?

[Mary Fisher]

Post by Grouch
Don't you people realise this is propagating throughtout various other
Newsgroups.?

Yes. And your point is?

Mary

[Depresion]

Post by Mary Fisher

Post by Grouch
Don't you people realise this is propagating throughtout various other
Newsgroups.?

Yes. And your point is?

A lot of the posts could be considered incitement and or conspiracy to commit a
crime.

[m***@hotmail.com]

Post by Grouch
Don't you people realise this is propagating throughtout various other
Newsgroups.?

So propogate off and read something else if you don't have anything
sensible to say. Oops, I'll have to do it myself now!

[Chara Banc]

Post by Zak
I live in a small block of flats near London. When they go
shopping some people like to park in our car park. If this does
not happen much then we just accept it.
However, recently a small number of strangers have started parking
here regularly and some leave their car here all day while they
are at work.
There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning notices
and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are ignored.
These peristent parkers also ignore our little notes left under
the wipers asking them not to park in our car park.

Google for similar situations on uk.legal as this sort of thing has
been discussed many times there, then consider posting you query on
that ng.

Basically, you could wind up in deep doo-doo if you pursue the wrong
course of action, so you need to consider the wider implications.

Much might depend on exactly who owns the car-park.

[Grouch]

Post by Chara Banc

Post by Zak
I live in a small block of flats near London. When they go
shopping some people like to park in our car park. If this does
not happen much then we just accept it.
However, recently a small number of strangers have started parking
here regularly and some leave their car here all day while they
are at work.
There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning notices
and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are ignored.
These peristent parkers also ignore our little notes left under
the wipers asking them not to park in our car park.

Google for similar situations on uk.legal as this sort of thing has
been discussed many times there, then consider posting you query on
that ng.
Basically, you could wind up in deep doo-doo if you pursue the wrong
course of action, so you need to consider the wider implications.
Much might depend on exactly who owns the car-park.

Nobody owns the damn carpark cos it was all a f*cking blag posting by the
OP. so can we close this sodden thread altogether.

[Mary Fisher]

Post by Grouch
Nobody owns the damn carpark cos it was all a f*cking blag posting by the
OP. so can we close this sodden thread altogether.

Been interesting though :-)

Mary

[Andy Turner]

Post by Grouch

Post by Chara Banc

Post by Zak
I live in a small block of flats near London. When they go
shopping some people like to park in our car park. If this does
not happen much then we just accept it.
However, recently a small number of strangers have started parking
here regularly and some leave their car here all day while they
are at work.
There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning notices
and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are ignored.
These peristent parkers also ignore our little notes left under
the wipers asking them not to park in our car park.

Google for similar situations on uk.legal as this sort of thing has
been discussed many times there, then consider posting you query on
that ng.
Basically, you could wind up in deep doo-doo if you pursue the wrong
course of action, so you need to consider the wider implications.
Much might depend on exactly who owns the car-park.

Nobody owns the damn carpark cos it was all a f*cking blag posting by the
OP. so can we close this sodden thread altogether.

Oh I see! You're the usenet ruler who decides who can say what in what
threads!


andyt

[m***@hotmail.com]

Post by Grouch

Post by Chara Banc

Post by Zak
I live in a small block of flats near London. When they go
shopping some people like to park in our car park. If this does
not happen much then we just accept it.
However, recently a small number of strangers have started parking
here regularly and some leave their car here all day while they
are at work.
There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning notices
and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are ignored.
These peristent parkers also ignore our little notes left under
the wipers asking them not to park in our car park.

Google for similar situations on uk.legal as this sort of thing has
been discussed many times there, then consider posting you query on
that ng.
Basically, you could wind up in deep doo-doo if you pursue the wrong
course of action, so you need to consider the wider implications.
Much might depend on exactly who owns the car-park.

Nobody owns the damn carpark cos it was all a f*cking blag posting by the
OP. so can we close this sodden thread altogether.

I just reopened it

Nre, ner, ner, ner, ner!

[GwG]

Post by Grouch

Much might depend on exalications.ctly who owns the car-park.

Nobody owns the damn carpark cos it was all a f*cking blag posting by the
OP. so can we close this sodden thread altogether.

If nobody owns the car park, can I claim it for myself?

[Zak]

Post by Grouch
Nobody owns the damn carpark cos it was all a f*cking blag
posting by the OP. so can we close this sodden thread
altogether.

Grouch, I am the OP. You write elsewhere in this thread that this
query of mine is spam.

Why not killfile me and/or the subject matter of this thread if you
have nothing useful to add?

Then look up what SPAM means.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Post by Chara Banc

Post by Zak
I live in a small block of flats near London. When they go
shopping some people like to park in our car park. If this does
not happen much then we just accept it.
However, recently a small number of strangers have started parking
here regularly and some leave their car here all day while they
are at work.
There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning notices
and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are ignored.
These peristent parkers also ignore our little notes left under
the wipers asking them not to park in our car park.

Google for similar situations on uk.legal as this sort of thing has
been discussed many times there, then consider posting you query on
that ng.
Basically, you could wind up in deep doo-doo if you pursue the wrong
course of action, so you need to consider the wider implications.
Much might depend on exactly who owns the car-park.

The important thing, as always, is not to get caught.

[pammyT]

Post by Zak
This is slightly off-topic but posted to groups where I figure
people would have some good ideas to help me out.
------
I live in a small block of flats near London. When they go
shopping some people like to park in our car park. If this does
not happen much then we just accept it.
However, recently a small number of strangers have started parking
here regularly and some leave their car here all day while they
are at work.
There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning notices
and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are ignored.
These peristent parkers also ignore our little notes left under
the wipers asking them not to park in our car park.
SO THIS IS MY PLAN. I reckon I should now stick a A4-sized
"Please Do Not Park Here" notice on the windscreen of these
regular parkers and make sure the notice is attached with some
sort of glue that takes them a long time to remove.
What do you suggest I use for glue? If I use some rubbery sort of
compound like Bostik or Evostik then it will cost quite a bit as I
probably need a tube of the glue for each notice. If I use a
hard-setting glue like superglue then it will probably come off
with an ice-scraper as the wind screen will probably be a bit
dirty & dusty.
Can I buy and preprinted EXTRA-MESSY self adhesive notices which
say "Please Do Not Park Here" ?
Any ideas as to what (relatively cheap) adhesive I can use would
be welcome.

Do you actually own this car park. Is it on your deeds? If so, you are
entitled to buy a wheel clamp, put a sign up, and clamp if they ignore it
setting whatever fee you like for release. Could be a nice little earner.

--
purebred poultry
www.geocities.com/fenlandfowl

[JK]

You say this is *your* car park, but you need to be clear what this
means before you take action. Either it is reserved in some way for
your use (either because it is privately owned or because the local
authority has set it aside for your exclusive use) OR it is a public
parking place. If the former, you have my sympathy, and perhaps some of
the actions mentioned in this thread will help. However, you should
really turn to legal remedies rather than vigilantism - you're more
than likely to get confrontations with the kind of people who invade
other people's parking spaces - good luck, take a big dog with you.

If you don't have legal right to exclusive parking, on the other hand,
tough. Suck it down. There's nothing more annoying than those nutters
who leave their own personal traffic cones on the street in front of
their house. If I parked in a legal parking spot and someone vandalized
my car, I'd take photos, have it professionally cleaned and take them
to the small claims courts for costs.

So which are you, aggrieved victim or cone-nutter?

[Zak]

Post by JK
You say this is *your* car park, but you need to be clear what
this means before you take action. Either it is reserved in some
way for your use (either because it is privately owned or
because the local authority has set it aside for your exclusive
use) OR it is a public parking place.

It is privately owned by the residents of the flats. We pay for
its upkeep and maintenance and insurance. Its boundary is shown
in the deeds of our flats.

Post by JK
If the former, you have my
sympathy, and perhaps some of the actions mentioned in this
thread will help. However, you should really turn to legal
remedies rather than vigilantism - you're more than likely to
get confrontations with the kind of people who invade other
people's parking spaces - good luck, take a big dog with you.
If you don't have legal right to exclusive parking, on the other
hand, tough. Suck it down. There's nothing more annoying than
those nutters who leave their own personal traffic cones on the
street in front of their house. If I parked in a legal parking
spot and someone vandalized my car, I'd take photos, have it
professionally cleaned and take them to the small claims courts
for costs.
So which are you, aggrieved victim or cone-nutter?

Aggrieved victim.

[DanTXD]

Post by Zak
This is slightly off-topic but posted to groups where I figure
people would have some good ideas to help me out.
------
I live in a small block of flats near London. When they go
shopping some people like to park in our car park. If this does
not happen much then we just accept it.
However, recently a small number of strangers have started parking
here regularly and some leave their car here all day while they
are at work.
There is entry no barrier to our car park and the warning notices
and (fake) clamping notices on the car park walls are ignored.
These peristent parkers also ignore our little notes left under
the wipers asking them not to park in our car park.
SO THIS IS MY PLAN. I reckon I should now stick a A4-sized
"Please Do Not Park Here" notice on the windscreen of these
regular parkers and make sure the notice is attached with some
sort of glue that takes them a long time to remove.
What do you suggest I use for glue? If I use some rubbery sort of
compound like Bostik or Evostik then it will cost quite a bit as I
probably need a tube of the glue for each notice. If I use a
hard-setting glue like superglue then it will probably come off
with an ice-scraper as the wind screen will probably be a bit
dirty & dusty.
Can I buy and preprinted EXTRA-MESSY self adhesive notices which
say "Please Do Not Park Here" ?
Any ideas as to what (relatively cheap) adhesive I can use would
be welcome.

Just write it on the bonnet in spray paint - that'll teach 'em :)

[d***@blueyonder.co.uk]

On Fri, 20 May 2005 13:20:58 +0100, "DanTXD"

Post by DanTXD
Just write it on the bonnet in spray paint - that'll teach 'em :)

A better idea and less damage would be for them to come back every day
to four flats they would soon stop parking there !!!!!.

[‹(•¿•)› BORG]

TROLL ALERT

[Zak]

Post by ‹(•¿•)› BORG
TROLL ALERT

At ease everyone. It's just a false alert from BORG.

[Johannes H Andersen]

Post by Zak
This is slightly off-topic but posted to groups where I figure
people would have some good ideas to help me out.

So if it's off-topic, that justifies excessive cross posting?

1. It is criminal damage.