Honda ictdi

[JohnR]

I have an Accord Tourer 2.2 ictdi, had the car for about 7 months now, a few
weeks ago the heater coil display light came on whilst driving under
acceleration, the car went into "limp mode" after a minute or so of steady
away driving it went off.
A friend who is an RAC patrolman plugged into his diagnostic computer and
the fault was a camshaft position sensor fault, we renewed the sensor
£85.00+ vat, cleared the fault code and tried it, the heater coil light
again came on again and car in limp mode.
Diagnosed it again, this time it showed a P1065 fault code, which I
understand is a Honda fault code.
The car starts and runs fine until you accelerate maybe to 3000 rpm then the
engine faulters and if you persist it will go into limp mode.
I am going to put it in for a major sevice pretty soon when finances allow,
just wondered if anyone has any experience of similar.
The fuel filter does not look like it has been changed recently and when I
spoke to the main dealer they said some problems had been experienced if
fuel filters were not changed regularly....Could it possibly be a fuel flow
fault, was my recent thought.
Any help appreciated.

John

[Duncan Wood]

Post by JohnR
I have an Accord Tourer 2.2 ictdi, had the car for about 7 months now, a
few weeks ago the heater coil display light came on whilst driving under
acceleration, the car went into "limp mode" after a minute or so of
steady away driving it went off.
A friend who is an RAC patrolman plugged into his diagnostic computer
and the fault was a camshaft position sensor fault, we renewed the
sensor £85.00+ vat, cleared the fault code and tried it, the heater
coil light again came on again and car in limp mode.
Diagnosed it again, this time it showed a P1065 fault code, which I
understand is a Honda fault code.
The car starts and runs fine until you accelerate maybe to 3000 rpm then
the engine faulters and if you persist it will go into limp mode.
I am going to put it in for a major sevice pretty soon when finances
allow, just wondered if anyone has any experience of similar.
The fuel filter does not look like it has been changed recently and when
I spoke to the main dealer they said some problems had been experienced
if fuel filters were not changed regularly....Could it possibly be a
fuel flow fault, was my recent thought.
Any help appreciated.
John

Change the fuel filter & check the earthing to the ECU if you don't want
to pay Honda for a fault code read out.

[JohnR]

Thanks Duncan, I was definitely changing the filter anyway. i'll get the ECU
checked now too....Cheers.
John

Post by Duncan Wood

Post by JohnR
I have an Accord Tourer 2.2 ictdi, had the car for about 7 months now, a
few weeks ago the heater coil display light came on whilst driving under
acceleration, the car went into "limp mode" after a minute or so of
steady away driving it went off.
A friend who is an RAC patrolman plugged into his diagnostic computer
and the fault was a camshaft position sensor fault, we renewed the
sensor £85.00+ vat, cleared the fault code and tried it, the heater
coil light again came on again and car in limp mode.
Diagnosed it again, this time it showed a P1065 fault code, which I
understand is a Honda fault code.
The car starts and runs fine until you accelerate maybe to 3000 rpm then
the engine faulters and if you persist it will go into limp mode.
I am going to put it in for a major sevice pretty soon when finances
allow, just wondered if anyone has any experience of similar.
The fuel filter does not look like it has been changed recently and when
I spoke to the main dealer they said some problems had been experienced
if fuel filters were not changed regularly....Could it possibly be a
fuel flow fault, was my recent thought.
Any help appreciated.
John

Change the fuel filter & check the earthing to the ECU if you don't want
to pay Honda for a fault code read out.

[Rob]

Post by Duncan Wood

Post by JohnR
I have an Accord Tourer 2.2 ictdi, had the car for about 7 months now, a
few weeks ago the heater coil display light came on whilst driving under
acceleration, the car went into "limp mode" after a minute or so of
steady away driving it went off.
A friend who is an RAC patrolman plugged into his diagnostic computer
and the fault was a camshaft position sensor fault, we renewed the
sensor £85.00+ vat, cleared the fault code and tried it, the heater
coil light again came on again and car in limp mode.
Diagnosed it again, this time it showed a P1065 fault code, which I
understand is a Honda fault code.
The car starts and runs fine until you accelerate maybe to 3000 rpm then
the engine faulters and if you persist it will go into limp mode.
I am going to put it in for a major sevice pretty soon when finances
allow, just wondered if anyone has any experience of similar.
The fuel filter does not look like it has been changed recently and when
I spoke to the main dealer they said some problems had been experienced
if fuel filters were not changed regularly....Could it possibly be a
fuel flow fault, was my recent thought.
Any help appreciated.
John

Change the fuel filter & check the earthing to the ECU if you don't want
to pay Honda for a fault code read out.

Nothing to do with "earthing", that is usually shouted as a guess.
If the ECU wasn't "earthed" - or connected to the negative supply it
wouldn't work.
If the connection was bad or a high resistance it would show immediately as
the
car wouldn't start or run. It isn't really an issue with a Honda.
The fuel filter change will make no difference. Learn how a diesel turbo
engine works!
Stop the guessing and save money. Split the engine in to sections, look at
what each
one does - then try to work out why an error code would point to one thing,
but be caused
by surrounding parts.

[moray]

Post by Rob

Post by Duncan Wood

Post by JohnR
I have an Accord Tourer 2.2 ictdi, had the car for about 7 months now, a
few weeks ago the heater coil display light came on whilst driving under
acceleration, the car went into "limp mode" after a minute or so of
steady away driving it went off.
A friend who is an RAC patrolman plugged into his diagnostic computer
and the fault was a camshaft position sensor fault, we renewed the
sensor £85.00+ vat, cleared the fault code and tried it, the heater
coil light again came on again and car in limp mode.
Diagnosed it again, this time it showed a P1065 fault code, which I
understand is a Honda fault code.
The car starts and runs fine until you accelerate maybe to 3000 rpm then
the engine faulters and if you persist it will go into limp mode.
I am going to put it in for a major sevice pretty soon when finances
allow, just wondered if anyone has any experience of similar.
The fuel filter does not look like it has been changed recently and when
I spoke to the main dealer they said some problems had been experienced
if fuel filters were not changed regularly....Could it possibly be a
fuel flow fault, was my recent thought.
Any help appreciated.
John

Change the fuel filter & check the earthing to the ECU if you don't want
to pay Honda for a fault code read out.

Nothing to do with "earthing", that is usually shouted as a guess.
If the ECU wasn't "earthed" - or connected to the negative supply it
wouldn't work.
If the connection was bad or a high resistance it would show immediately
as the
car wouldn't start or run. It isn't really an issue with a Honda.
The fuel filter change will make no difference. Learn how a diesel turbo
engine works!

A blocked/restricted fuel filter on modern diesels can cause the vehicle to
go into limp home mode.
Particuarly on Delphi and Denso systems that use a flow control valve on the
vacuum side of the high pressure pump. The ECU will realise that it's not
seeing enough pressure for a given valve opening, and enter into limp home
mode to protect the high pressure pump.

Post by Rob
Stop the guessing and save money. Split the engine in to sections, look
at what each
one does - then try to work out why an error code would point to one
thing, but be caused
by surrounding parts.

[Rob]

Post by JohnR
I have an Accord Tourer 2.2 ictdi, had the car for about 7 months now, a
few weeks ago the heater coil display light came on whilst driving under
acceleration, the car went into "limp mode" after a minute or so of steady
away driving it went off.
A friend who is an RAC patrolman plugged into his diagnostic computer and
the fault was a camshaft position sensor fault, we renewed the sensor
£85.00+ vat, cleared the fault code and tried it, the heater coil light
again came on again and car in limp mode.

This illustrates why you shouldn't trust error codes - they do NOT always
show
the real problem or the cause. I would be asking him for the £85+VAT if he
give an
incorrect diagnosis. Not much good if he can only read fault codes without
knowing how to make a proper diagnosis.

Post by JohnR
Diagnosed it again, this time it showed a P1065 fault code, which I
understand is a Honda fault code.

So did you Google it, or join any of the Honda forums to find out more?
Mr RAC should be able to tell you what it means otherwise he isn't much use!

Post by JohnR
The car starts and runs fine until you accelerate maybe to 3000 rpm then
the engine faulters and if you persist it will go into limp mode.

That is because your MAF sensor has gone - you need to look at it closely.

Post by JohnR
I am going to put it in for a major sevice pretty soon when finances
allow, just wondered if anyone has any experience of similar.

No need for a major service, it will be cheaper to get a Honda dealer to fix
it
rather than keep listening to "oh let's try this" from your mate. His
apparent
lack of knowledge will cost you a fortune. he doesn't really know what's
wrong
with it, he is guessing. Terrible when he doesn't know what codes can point
to!

Post by JohnR
The fuel filter does not look like it has been changed recently and when I
spoke to the main dealer they said some problems had been experienced if
fuel filters were not changed regularly....Could it possibly be a fuel
flow fault, was my recent thought.

Only if the filter is blocked - in which case Mr RAC would get a few
different error codes
pointing to that. The filters don't need to be changed that often, you
would notice poor
performance over time until it packed in. The error code will not say
"change the filter",
it might show a few other things such as injector concerns or emission
warnings.

Post by JohnR
Any help appreciated.
John

[PCPaul]

Post by Rob
Mr RAC should be able to tell you what it means otherwise he isn't much use!

I had an AA man tell me it was the engine management system on my B reg
1.2 Nova that was playing up. It was a basic-as-they-come non-injection
engine with a carb. The only electronic bits on the engine were the
ignition switch and coil.

If he hadn't also said he was retiring in a few weeks because he
'couldn't keep up with all the new technology' I'd have made more of a
fuss.

That one turned out to be a dodgy earth strap, BTW, sometimes a good
connection, sometimes bad. And as I've seen in many of the electronic
gadgets I've worked on (and built from scratch) the errors you get with
intermittent connections are far from logical to diagnose.

[Pete M]

Post by JohnR
I have an Accord Tourer 2.2 ictdi, had the car for about 7 months now, a
few weeks ago the heater coil display light came on whilst driving under
acceleration, the car went into "limp mode" after a minute or so of
steady away driving it went off.
A friend who is an RAC patrolman plugged into his diagnostic computer
and the fault was a camshaft position sensor fault, we renewed the
sensor £85.00+ vat, cleared the fault code and tried it, the heater
coil light again came on again and car in limp mode.
Diagnosed it again, this time it showed a P1065 fault code, which I
understand is a Honda fault code.
The car starts and runs fine until you accelerate maybe to 3000 rpm then
the engine faulters and if you persist it will go into limp mode.
I am going to put it in for a major sevice pretty soon when finances
allow, just wondered if anyone has any experience of similar.
The fuel filter does not look like it has been changed recently and when
I spoke to the main dealer they said some problems had been experienced
if fuel filters were not changed regularly....Could it possibly be a
fuel flow fault, was my recent thought.
Any help appreciated.

P1065 is a generic mass air flow meter OBD code.

[moray]

Post by Pete M

Post by JohnR
I have an Accord Tourer 2.2 ictdi, had the car for about 7 months now, a
few weeks ago the heater coil display light came on whilst driving under
acceleration, the car went into "limp mode" after a minute or so of
steady away driving it went off.
A friend who is an RAC patrolman plugged into his diagnostic computer and
the fault was a camshaft position sensor fault, we renewed the sensor
£85.00+ vat, cleared the fault code and tried it, the heater coil light
again came on again and car in limp mode.
Diagnosed it again, this time it showed a P1065 fault code, which I
understand is a Honda fault code.
The car starts and runs fine until you accelerate maybe to 3000 rpm then
the engine faulters and if you persist it will go into limp mode.
I am going to put it in for a major sevice pretty soon when finances
allow, just wondered if anyone has any experience of similar.
The fuel filter does not look like it has been changed recently and when
I spoke to the main dealer they said some problems had been experienced
if fuel filters were not changed regularly....Could it possibly be a fuel
flow fault, was my recent thought.
Any help appreciated.

P1065 is a generic mass air flow meter OBD code.

Only codes in the region of P0000-0999 are generic codes.
Anything above are manufacturer specific codes, along with any beginning
with C or U.

[fiona dobie]

Hi John

I know you probably don't have your car any longer but was wondering if you ever got to t=
he bottom of your problem. We are having exactly the same problem and we can't afford t=
o be throwing money away. The other problem we are having is that when we are accelerat=
ing in lower gear, not only does it go into 'limp mode', the whole enging cuts out with t=
he engine management light on and the glow plug coil flashing. Have to stop at the side=
of the road for a few minutes before the engine will start again. Not very handy if you'=
ve just tried to overtake. Getting dangerous. Just given Honda =C2=A3100 for nothin=
g. They updated the ECU apparently. Looks like a long haul. Hope you got to the bottom o=
f it and can let me know.

Fiona

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[Tim..]

"fiona dobie" <***@binternet.com> wrote in message news:***@newspe.com...
Hi John

I know you probably don't have your car any longer but was wondering if you
ever got to the bottom of your problem. We are having exactly the same
problem and we can't afford to be throwing money away. The other problem we
are having is that when we are accelerating in lower gear, not only does it
go into 'limp mode', the whole enging cuts out with the engine management
light on and the glow plug coil flashing. Have to stop at the side of the
road for a few minutes before the engine will start again. Not very handy if
you've just tried to overtake. Getting dangerous. Just given Honda £100 for
nothing. They updated the ECU apparently. Looks like a long haul. Hope you
got to the bottom of it and can let me know.


There is a known problem with turbo's on some of the earlier Civic i-ctdi's
which will give a p1236 and p1237. Honda have upgraded the warranty to 5yrs
for the turbo, so speak with your dealer about it. Otherwise it is a BIG
bill, sorry.

Tim..

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