Citroen C3 Picasso rear disk replacement

[Andrew]

Just been helping my neighbour change rear disks and pads
on a C3 Picasso. Typical Peugeot/Citoen, the rear disks have
sealed bearing inside the disks and you cannot buy the
disks on their own (probably need pressing out).

£60 each *trade* price, and those were after market too. !.

Local Pug dealer wanted £540 to do the job.

That's one car removed from my buying list, but the real
alarm is that Citroen/Pug now own Vauxhall/Opel and the
new Astra looks like it could be a Cit/Pug rebadged job.

I'll keep my Astra H for as along as possible.

Andrew

[newshound]

Post by Andrew
Just been helping my neighbour change rear disks and pads
on a C3 Picasso. Typical Peugeot/Citoen, the rear disks have
sealed bearing inside the disks and you cannot buy the
disks on their own (probably need pressing out).
£60 each *trade* price, and those were after market too. !.
Local Pug dealer wanted £540 to do the job.
That's one car removed from my buying list, but the real
alarm is that Citroen/Pug now own Vauxhall/Opel and the
new Astra looks like it could be a Cit/Pug rebadged job.
I'll keep my Astra H for as along as possible.
Andrew

Very wise. I had a couple of older ones that were little trouble, and I
think my son's is an H.

[Peter Hill]

Post by Andrew
Just been helping my neighbour change rear disks and pads
on a C3 Picasso. Typical Peugeot/Citoen, the rear disks have
sealed bearing inside the disks and you cannot buy the
disks on their own (probably need pressing out).
£60 each *trade* price, and those were after market too. !.
Local Pug dealer wanted £540 to do the job.
That's one car removed from my buying list, but the real
alarm is that Citroen/Pug now own Vauxhall/Opel and the
new Astra looks like it could be a Cit/Pug rebadged job.
I'll keep my Astra H for as along as possible.
Andrew

They did the same with drums as well. Utter twats. It saves them money
as they only make one part and not 2 but it costs the owners later on.
But as the first owner never finds these hidden costs of ownership they
don't get punished by reduced sales. Even in deprecation it becomes a
small penalty as it's mainly 3rd or 4th owner that gets to pay.

I removed PSA from my buying list after a Citroen BX blew up it's
ignition. Dealer said "they do that sir!". Told me that they didn't know
if the electronic unit failed and blew the coil or coil failed and blew
the electronics but they both fail at the same time. It was so common
that there after market parts available. Meanwhile Japanese motors went
to the scrapyards electrically fully functional on the original equipment.

PSA also used rust for wiring. Copper plated steel. The steel rusted and
the copper plate turned green. Come to change a bulb and the wire fell
apart. So a simple bulb change became a wiring job.

But at least it will hold a line going round a bend.

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

Post by Andrew
Just been helping my neighbour change rear disks and pads
on a C3 Picasso. Typical Peugeot/Citoen, the rear disks have
sealed bearing inside the disks and you cannot buy the
disks on their own (probably need pressing out).
£60 each *trade* price, and those were after market too. !.
Local Pug dealer wanted £540 to do the job.
That's one car removed from my buying list, but the real
alarm is that Citroen/Pug now own Vauxhall/Opel and the
new Astra looks like it could be a Cit/Pug rebadged job.
I'll keep my Astra H for as along as possible.
Andrew

hate french engineering

[Ramsman]

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

Post by Andrew
Just been helping my neighbour change rear disks and pads
on a C3 Picasso. Typical Peugeot/Citoen, the rear disks have
sealed bearing inside the disks and you cannot buy the
disks on their own (probably need pressing out).
£60 each *trade* price, and those were after market too. !.
Local Pug dealer wanted £540 to do the job.
That's one car removed from my buying list, but the real
alarm is that Citroen/Pug now own Vauxhall/Opel and the
new Astra looks like it could be a Cit/Pug rebadged job.
I'll keep my Astra H for as along as possible.
Andrew

hate french engineering

Absolutely. Only the French could come up with something as horrible as
the SCART.

[Rod Speed]

Post by Ramsman

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

Post by Andrew
Just been helping my neighbour change rear disks and pads
on a C3 Picasso. Typical Peugeot/Citoen, the rear disks have
sealed bearing inside the disks and you cannot buy the
disks on their own (probably need pressing out).
£60 each *trade* price, and those were after market too. !.
Local Pug dealer wanted £540 to do the job.
That's one car removed from my buying list, but the real
alarm is that Citroen/Pug now own Vauxhall/Opel and the
new Astra looks like it could be a Cit/Pug rebadged job.
I'll keep my Astra H for as along as possible.

hate french engineering

I do too with cars.

Post by Ramsman
Absolutely. Only the French could come up
with something as horrible as the SCART.

But they did manage to build tehn Eiffel Tower

And invented the guillotine which works a lot better
than chopping people's head off with an axe.

And did nukes far better than anyone else.

And the airbuses work pretty well too.

[Rod Speed]

Post by Rod Speed

Post by Ramsman

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

Post by Andrew
Just been helping my neighbour change rear disks and pads
on a C3 Picasso. Typical Peugeot/Citoen, the rear disks have
sealed bearing inside the disks and you cannot buy the
disks on their own (probably need pressing out).
£60 each *trade* price, and those were after market too. !.
Local Pug dealer wanted £540 to do the job.
That's one car removed from my buying list, but the real
alarm is that Citroen/Pug now own Vauxhall/Opel and the
new Astra looks like it could be a Cit/Pug rebadged job.
I'll keep my Astra H for as along as possible.

hate french engineering

I do too with cars.

Post by Ramsman
Absolutely. Only the French could come up
with something as horrible as the SCART.

But they did manage to build tehn Eiffel Tower

And invented the guillotine which works a lot better
than chopping people's head off with an axe.

The original - The Maiden - came from Scotland.

Those buggers claim to have invented everything.

Almost as bad as the Poles.

They did invent the haggis and some very decent single
malt scotch but weren't even first with cross dressing.

Post by Rod Speed
And did nukes far better than anyone else.
And the airbuses work pretty well too.

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[The Natural Philosopher]

Post by Rod Speed
And invented the guillotine which works a lot better
than chopping people's head off with an axe.

The original - The Maiden - came from Scotland.

Goes back a lot further than that

[Rod Speed]

Post by The Natural Philosopher

Post by Rod Speed
And invented the guillotine which works a lot better
than chopping people's head off with an axe.

The original - The Maiden - came from Scotland.

Nope
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillotine#Precursors

Post by The Natural Philosopher
Goes back a lot further than that

Yep.

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[Abandoned_Trolley]

Post by Ramsman
Absolutely. Only the French could come up with something as horrible as
the SCART.

or SECAM

[charles]

Post by Abandoned_Trolley

Post by Ramsman
Absolutely. Only the French could come up with something as horrible as
the SCART.

or SECAM

Systeme European Contre les AMericaines

[SH]

Post by charles

Post by Abandoned_Trolley

Post by Ramsman
Absolutely. Only the French could come up with something as horrible as
the SCART.

or SECAM

Systeme European Contre les AMericaines

Au contraire!

SECAM actually stands for Systeme Electronique couleur avec memoir or
Sequential Color and Memory.

SECAM is a TV broadcast system invented by French engineer Henri de
France and his team attached to Compagnie Française de Télévision.

The whole idea behind SECAM was to rectify the shortcomings of NTSC
developed by the USA.

That could be why SECAM has been jokingly called System Essentially
Contrary to American Method.

NTSC, incidentally, is often called Never Twice the Same Colour instead
of National Television Standards Committee

PAL wasn’t spared either – from Peace At Last, to Picture Always Lousy,
instead of Phase Alternate Line.

[charles]

Post by Abandoned_Trolley

Post by Ramsman
Absolutely. Only the French could come up with something as horrible
as the SCART.

or SECAM

They had some form of HD tv long before we did though

Trouble was it took up an enormous amount of spectrum space.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Post by charles

Post by Abandoned_Trolley

Post by Ramsman
Absolutely. Only the French could come up with something as horrible
as the SCART.

or SECAM

They had some form of HD tv long before we did though

Trouble was it took up an enormous amount of spectrum space.

It was what appeared to be a good quality picture at 819 lines - I saw a
demo set years ago at a Barco monitor workshop.
In theory, 625 line PAL TV should also take up an enormous amount of
spectrum space, but for broadcast purposes it was squeezed in to the
8MHZ channel spaces and I believe that only 5.5MHZ was allocated to the
video.

Actually it used a shade over 6MHz

And no it shouldn't have used 'an enormous amount of spectrum space'

Line scan is ~ 16kHz, a 500 'pixel' line would be 8MHz.

That was in the UK, Most of Europe (System B) only used 5MHz for video

And then everyone went satellite and digital...
..and now internet.

[charles]

Post by The Natural Philosopher

Post by charles

Post by Abandoned_Trolley

Post by Ramsman
Absolutely. Only the French could come up with something as
horrible as the SCART.

or SECAM

They had some form of HD tv long before we did though

Trouble was it took up an enormous amount of spectrum space.

It was what appeared to be a good quality picture at 819 lines - I saw
a demo set years ago at a Barco monitor workshop.
In theory, 625 line PAL TV should also take up an enormous amount of
spectrum space, but for broadcast purposes it was squeezed in to the
8MHZ channel spaces and I believe that only 5.5MHZ was allocated to
the video.

Actually it used a shade over 6MHz
And no it shouldn't have used 'an enormous amount of spectrum space'
Line scan is ~ 16kHz, a 500 'pixel' line would be 8MHz.

ISTR about 10Hz for the 819 system. But is is 50 years since I worked with
it.. yes, we had a caption scanner at TVC which ran on 819 and we had a
lovely HD monitor.

Post by The Natural Philosopher

That was in the UK, Most of Europe (System B) only used 5MHz for video

And then everyone went satellite and digital... ..and now internet.